<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post8532502829718190389..comments</id><updated>2010-04-06T15:18:40.144-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Diary of a Mad Editor: Farewell to Free Milk: A True and Cautionary Tale</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.madeditor.com/feeds/8532502829718190389/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html'/><author><name>DM</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06820905940304729280</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>6</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-408353158366440802</id><published>2010-04-06T15:18:40.134-07:00</published><updated>2010-04-06T15:18:40.134-07:00</updated><title type='text'>How do you do!
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The first time I read her blog since having my own child was the farewell post you&amp;#39;ve written about here. It is sad but people don&amp;#39;t realize that daily writers are doing so usually at the expense of some other daily activity, e.g. a paying job. &lt;br&gt;Worse than this, I&amp;#39;ve read more than one daily blogger who accepts donations for her work and then gets berated for content by some readers who feel she should only write what they want to see. After all, they are getting paid for their work. One of these I had recently donated a paltry $35 to right before this happened (hey, I&amp;#39;m self employed too. We have good months and bad months.) Anyway, I had to laugh. Four listed &amp;quot;patrons&amp;quot; at anything close to what my slim wallet allowed me to fork over that month would hardly make a dent in a crumb of a living wage. But people are cheap and they view blogging as a hobby, so there you go.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/8461888515637964089'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/8461888515637964089'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html?showComment=1253332134852#c8461888515637964089' title=''/><author><name>Kirsten @ Apotheca</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00180220155162950361</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iY6cdPJg6Y4/SKC4gi5SxOI/AAAAAAAAADA/99HD243bZ2M/s1600-R/2-19-2007-15.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8532502829718190389' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/posts/default/8532502829718190389' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1699734671'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-5811411494162045715</id><published>2009-09-15T11:06:44.072-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-15T11:06:44.072-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I know of many webcomics that have hit this wall. ...</title><content type='html'>I know of many webcomics that have hit this wall. The one that I&amp;#39;m reminded of the most is The Norm by M. Jantze, which was nationally syndicated and in my local paper... until it wasn&amp;#39;t.  The artist made it work as a free &amp;amp; paid service for a year or two as I recall. I wasn&amp;#39;t sure if he lost inspiration, or just couldn&amp;#39;t make it work financially any longer (he offers art services and such now I believe).  Webcomics is a tough tough way to make a living from all I can tell (unlike all those easy ways to make a living like... well... being royalty?). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve had a website for writers for the past 5+ years (oh crap time flies) and the first few years we made a couple bucks, but for the last couple years I&amp;#39;ve had to let the forums run largely on auto-pilot because I just couldn&amp;#39;t dedicate that kind of time to something that wasn&amp;#39;t making any money.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If you&amp;#39;re looking at online content as a means of making money, the author of the classic geek comic at userfriendly.org put out a book a couple years ago that you can get used on amazon for a few bucks: &amp;quot;Money for Content and Your Clicks for Free&amp;quot;  It was, as I recall, a good treatise on how to think about making money as a content creator on the web, rather than just a bunch of &amp;quot;tips&amp;quot; on how he makes money.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sadly, people invariably don&amp;#39;t want to pay for their content, BUT there are people who want to support the artists they like. Some of the problem is figuring out how to make it workable for person X or Y to get their money to the artist. Advertising can work. But Google even explicitly states that you&amp;#39;re not to ask people to click on links. So you&amp;#39;ve got the added challenge of having relevant advertising, making your users aware of it without promoting that they click on links, AND not alienating them with your adverts.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/5811411494162045715'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/5811411494162045715'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html?showComment=1253038004072#c5811411494162045715' title=''/><author><name>CharlesP</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05857232495841653049</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8532502829718190389' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/posts/default/8532502829718190389' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1099888086'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8470239929085530064</id><published>2009-09-13T17:20:29.016-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-13T17:20:29.016-07:00</updated><title type='text'>MacBump, I think you&amp;#39;ll find that, in general,...</title><content type='html'>MacBump, I think you&amp;#39;ll find that, in general, breastfeeding is correlated with a higher socioeconomic status than formula feeding.  This has also certainly been my experience.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;No, I think that both Hathor and Deborah are right.  They&amp;#39;re under no obligation to run a charity, when they have bills to pay and lives to lead.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/8470239929085530064'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/8470239929085530064'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html?showComment=1252887629016#c8470239929085530064' title=''/><author><name>sanctimommy</name><uri>http://sanctimommy.wordpress.com/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8532502829718190389' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/posts/default/8532502829718190389' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-816023096'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-7868275773455471148</id><published>2009-09-13T16:14:51.878-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-13T16:14:51.878-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I think the problem is, in this day and age, who i...</title><content type='html'>I think the problem is, in this day and age, who is looking at Hathor comments?  Mostly BFing mommies.  Who are BFing mommies?  Mostly poor mommies.  The rich can afford formula.  I myself am nursing my 3rd child, and pumping for him as I have gone back to work, and I nursed the previous 2 until they weaned.  We have never had extra money for much at all.  I also use cloth diapers and even EC to diminish the cost, never used jarred baby food, etc.  I admit none of it really bothers me but I also don&amp;#39;t entirely do it by choice.  If I can barely afford to feed my family (and I don&amp;#39;t smoke, don&amp;#39;t drink alcohol except occasionally, and I do dress kids in thrift store clothing) how on earth can I manage to afford a comic book and help out Heather, much as I might like to?  Maybe someday when I&amp;#39;ve won the lottery.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Don&amp;#39;t get me wrong; I think she is fine to take it to a pay feature if that is what she needs.  I&amp;#39;m not sure it will really generate a lot more cash for her unfortunately, but I do understand it.  But I just don&amp;#39;t think I, or many other people who are doing the same type of parenting, will have a lot of loose change to buy the comics now you have to pay for them.  :-(</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/7868275773455471148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/7868275773455471148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html?showComment=1252883691878#c7868275773455471148' title=''/><author><name>MacBump</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13629807022442149718</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wTLXO733mlA/Sn0yBNEyfBI/AAAAAAAAAAM/AUOEOxhXfZM/S220/sweetboy2.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8532502829718190389' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/posts/default/8532502829718190389' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2137167510'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8925853896234093970</id><published>2009-09-13T12:53:28.213-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-13T12:53:28.213-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Excellent post, and a perfect example of the probl...</title><content type='html'>Excellent post, and a perfect example of the problems facing pretty much anyone trying to disseminate information online these days, from major media companies to individual artists trying to make a living.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I don&amp;#39;t see how anyone still believes that everything on the internet that is currently free can continue to be so.  It&amp;#39;s just not a realistic model.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I hope your friend has more success in the future!  Her stuff is really cute.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/8925853896234093970'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/8532502829718190389/comments/default/8925853896234093970'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html?showComment=1252871608213#c8925853896234093970' title=''/><author><name>sanctimommy</name><uri>http://sanctimommy.wordpress.com/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.madeditor.com/2009/09/farewell-to-free-milk-true-and.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7065800792644424536.post-8532502829718190389' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/7065800792644424536/posts/default/8532502829718190389' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-816023096'/></entry></feed>
